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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;Researchers develop prototype system to thwart unwanted video and still photography&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Smile, you&#8217;re on Countermanded Camera at fulminate // Architectures of Control</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2006/06/19/researchers-develop-prototype-system-to-thwart-unwanted-video-and-still-photography/comment-page-1/#comment-77778</link>
		<dc:creator>Smile, you&#8217;re on Countermanded Camera at fulminate // Architectures of Control</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 09:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] We&#8217;ve looked before at a number of technologies and products aimed at &#8216;preventing&#8217; photography and image recording in some way, from censoring photographs of &#8216;copyrighted content&#8217; and banknotes, to Georgia Tech&#8217;s CCD-flooding system. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] We&#8217;ve looked before at a number of technologies and products aimed at &#8216;preventing&#8217; photography and image recording in some way, from censoring photographs of &#8216;copyrighted content&#8217; and banknotes, to Georgia Tech&#8217;s CCD-flooding system. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: No photography allowed at fulminate // Architectures of Control</title>
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		<dc:creator>No photography allowed at fulminate // Architectures of Control</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] P.S. We&#8217;ve looked before at actual technologies to &#8216;prevent&#8217; photography, such as Georgia Tech&#8217;s CCD-blinder and Hewlett-Packard&#8217;s &#8220;remote image degradation&#8221; device (in the wider context of &#8220;plugging the analogue hole&#8221;). As I replied to a commenter on the Georgia Tech story:  It won’t be too long (20 years?) before photographic (eidetic) memory and computers start to overlap (or even interface), to some extent, even if it’s only a refinement of something like the Sensecam. What’s going to happen then? If I can ‘print out’ anything I’ve ever seen, on a whim, why will I worry about what anyone else thinks? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] P.S. We&#8217;ve looked before at actual technologies to &#8216;prevent&#8217; photography, such as Georgia Tech&#8217;s CCD-blinder and Hewlett-Packard&#8217;s &#8220;remote image degradation&#8221; device (in the wider context of &#8220;plugging the analogue hole&#8221;). As I replied to a commenter on the Georgia Tech story:  It won’t be too long (20 years?) before photographic (eidetic) memory and computers start to overlap (or even interface), to some extent, even if it’s only a refinement of something like the Sensecam. What’s going to happen then? If I can ‘print out’ anything I’ve ever seen, on a whim, why will I worry about what anyone else thinks? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2006/06/19/researchers-develop-prototype-system-to-thwart-unwanted-video-and-still-photography/comment-page-1/#comment-1593</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 08:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand what you&#039;re saying, but do you believe art would have thrived in the age of the camera if no-one were allowed to photograph it (for personal use) without paying arbitrary fees? Either the artist wants his/her work to become better known, to inspire others, to cause them to think and ponder, to spread the artist&#039;s mindset, or not. If not, why bother showing the piece at all?

An architect doesn&#039;t receive a fee every time a building is viewed or photographed by a member of the public. A product designer doesn&#039;t get anything from people photographing products he/she&#039;s designed. A writer doesn&#039;t receive any royalty every time someone in a library picks up his/her book. It&#039;s probably, in fact, the music industry where the anomaly is, rather than the art world.

It might not be a popular view among (some) artists, but I&#039;m currently of the opinion that as long as they don&#039;t use it commercially, members of the public should be allowed to photograph whatever they want if it&#039;s on public display. If the artist wants to extract extra money from that, he/she&#039;ll have to provide some added value - e.g. postcards with extra information on them, or signed postcards, or extra-special prints.

It won&#039;t be too long (20 years?) before photographic (eidetic) memory and computers start to overlap (or even interface), to some extent, even if it&#039;s only a refinement of something like the &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3797581.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sensecam&lt;/a&gt;. What&#039;s going to happen then? If I can &#039;print out&#039; anything I&#039;ve ever seen, on a whim, why will I worry about what anyone else thinks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand what you&#8217;re saying, but do you believe art would have thrived in the age of the camera if no-one were allowed to photograph it (for personal use) without paying arbitrary fees? Either the artist wants his/her work to become better known, to inspire others, to cause them to think and ponder, to spread the artist&#8217;s mindset, or not. If not, why bother showing the piece at all?</p>
<p>An architect doesn&#8217;t receive a fee every time a building is viewed or photographed by a member of the public. A product designer doesn&#8217;t get anything from people photographing products he/she&#8217;s designed. A writer doesn&#8217;t receive any royalty every time someone in a library picks up his/her book. It&#8217;s probably, in fact, the music industry where the anomaly is, rather than the art world.</p>
<p>It might not be a popular view among (some) artists, but I&#8217;m currently of the opinion that as long as they don&#8217;t use it commercially, members of the public should be allowed to photograph whatever they want if it&#8217;s on public display. If the artist wants to extract extra money from that, he/she&#8217;ll have to provide some added value &#8211; e.g. postcards with extra information on them, or signed postcards, or extra-special prints.</p>
<p>It won&#8217;t be too long (20 years?) before photographic (eidetic) memory and computers start to overlap (or even interface), to some extent, even if it&#8217;s only a refinement of something like the <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3797581.stm" rel="nofollow">Sensecam</a>. What&#8217;s going to happen then? If I can &#8216;print out&#8217; anything I&#8217;ve ever seen, on a whim, why will I worry about what anyone else thinks?</p>
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		<title>By: sheridan</title>
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		<dc:creator>sheridan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 03:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>question: is this kind of product legtimate when upholding the law? I am thinking in particular about copyright law in the way it relates to artists. Unlike musicians, artists do not make a commission each time their work is sold or displayed. Copyright fees are their only way of a continued income. When a photograph is taken of an artwork on public display, it infringes copyright.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>question: is this kind of product legtimate when upholding the law? I am thinking in particular about copyright law in the way it relates to artists. Unlike musicians, artists do not make a commission each time their work is sold or displayed. Copyright fees are their only way of a continued income. When a photograph is taken of an artwork on public display, it infringes copyright.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2006/06/19/researchers-develop-prototype-system-to-thwart-unwanted-video-and-still-photography/comment-page-1/#comment-1332</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting that one of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thepartycow.com/2006/06/devil-wears-prada-theater-uniforms.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;comments on this blog post about a movie screening&lt;/a&gt; mentions that: &lt;blockquote&gt;You can now purchase an ultraviolet strobe to place above the screen - you can&#039;t see it with your eyes, but it blinds 99% of camcorders and makes bootlegs unwatchable.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
If that&#039;s effective, it&#039;s surely a less egregious architecture of control than the Georgia Tech system.

There&#039;s always &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.monochrom.at/piracy/&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;, of course!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that one of the <a href="http://www.thepartycow.com/2006/06/devil-wears-prada-theater-uniforms.html" rel="nofollow">comments on this blog post about a movie screening</a> mentions that:<br />
<blockquote>You can now purchase an ultraviolet strobe to place above the screen &#8211; you can&#8217;t see it with your eyes, but it blinds 99% of camcorders and makes bootlegs unwatchable.</blockquote></p>
<p>If that&#8217;s effective, it&#8217;s surely a less egregious architecture of control than the Georgia Tech system.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s always <a href="http://www.monochrom.at/piracy/">this</a>, of course!</p>
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		<title>By: David Gerkins</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2006/06/19/researchers-develop-prototype-system-to-thwart-unwanted-video-and-still-photography/comment-page-1/#comment-1291</link>
		<dc:creator>David Gerkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 09:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds like the people behind this system are trying to drum up some more cash. On the sparse details available, I don&#039;t think it is going to work very well - there seem to be many ways to defeat it and many ways it can go wrong. For example, can it handle 10 cameras? Can it handle cameras with large lens hoods (to block the laser)? If the search is using an invisible IR laser, is it possible to use an IR blocking filter? How easy is it to fool - be made to think there is a camera when there is not? I can totally see people glueing CCD chips to their foreheads when they go to the cinema, so the laser catches their forehead while they take photos with their cameras. Technically, i don&#039;t think it is going to work any time soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like the people behind this system are trying to drum up some more cash. On the sparse details available, I don&#8217;t think it is going to work very well &#8211; there seem to be many ways to defeat it and many ways it can go wrong. For example, can it handle 10 cameras? Can it handle cameras with large lens hoods (to block the laser)? If the search is using an invisible IR laser, is it possible to use an IR blocking filter? How easy is it to fool &#8211; be made to think there is a camera when there is not? I can totally see people glueing CCD chips to their foreheads when they go to the cinema, so the laser catches their forehead while they take photos with their cameras. Technically, i don&#8217;t think it is going to work any time soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 04:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outside of protecting a location from espionage, there is no legitimate reason to damage someone&#039;s property or person to protect &quot;your&quot; property.

Damage my camera in a non-governmental security environment (I would not be using it if it were one) and you will be sued.  And, if it is an SLR, there is always the possibility that the camera is up to my eye.  A laser will permanently damage someone&#039;s eye... I would not want to be the person responsible for that...  If it were my eye, financial considerations would not be reparations enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outside of protecting a location from espionage, there is no legitimate reason to damage someone&#8217;s property or person to protect &#8220;your&#8221; property.</p>
<p>Damage my camera in a non-governmental security environment (I would not be using it if it were one) and you will be sued.  And, if it is an SLR, there is always the possibility that the camera is up to my eye.  A laser will permanently damage someone&#8217;s eye&#8230; I would not want to be the person responsible for that&#8230;  If it were my eye, financial considerations would not be reparations enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2006/06/19/researchers-develop-prototype-system-to-thwart-unwanted-video-and-still-photography/comment-page-1/#comment-1287</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 20:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comments on this at Digg - http://www.digg.com/technology/Camera_blocking:_how_to_thwart_the_oppressors

#by andresfb

If these people are looking for funding they may want to talk to Hollywood celebrities. Time to un-dust that old film camera.

#by atroxodisse

The only legitimate reason to use these devices would be for people to avoid the paparazi. Otherwise I think companies will find it is not a viable idea because people with sharpies will easily thwart their laser by coloring over the lense or covering the lense with something. You may find people buying these devices to aid in committing crimes. For now it won&#039;t be an issue because most security cameras are probably not digital. The thing about blocking my digital camera is that I&#039;ll be able to see right away if the picture didn&#039;t come out. If the laser is somewhere I can reach I can easily cover it or have someone stand in front of it. If it&#039;s located up high I can cover my camera and block the laser. A boycott of locations with these kind of devices would probably be a good way of getting rid of them too. I really don&#039;t think they&#039;ll see a lot of use though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comments on this at Digg &#8211; <a href="http://www.digg.com/technology/Camera_blocking:_how_to_thwart_the_oppressors" rel="nofollow">http://www.digg.com/technology/Camera_blocking:_how_to_thwart_the_oppressors</a></p>
<p>#by andresfb</p>
<p>If these people are looking for funding they may want to talk to Hollywood celebrities. Time to un-dust that old film camera.</p>
<p>#by atroxodisse</p>
<p>The only legitimate reason to use these devices would be for people to avoid the paparazi. Otherwise I think companies will find it is not a viable idea because people with sharpies will easily thwart their laser by coloring over the lense or covering the lense with something. You may find people buying these devices to aid in committing crimes. For now it won&#8217;t be an issue because most security cameras are probably not digital. The thing about blocking my digital camera is that I&#8217;ll be able to see right away if the picture didn&#8217;t come out. If the laser is somewhere I can reach I can easily cover it or have someone stand in front of it. If it&#8217;s located up high I can cover my camera and block the laser. A boycott of locations with these kind of devices would probably be a good way of getting rid of them too. I really don&#8217;t think they&#8217;ll see a lot of use though.</p>
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