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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/#comment-262407</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, perhaps I should adjust my previous post. I still think its bad legislation, but it seems Eaton/MEM do not have a proper monopoly as the 3 pin BC3 is not (quite) unique to them. The competition does seem very slow in making BC3 versions of their products available though.

The legislation should have considered what would happen in the slow transition to BC3. It didn't and the result is much consumer inconvenience. To what benefit? The CLF tube shapes are also better than they used to be and CLFs are now cheap enough that when consumers consider their longevity they may well buy them anyway. So I still think the legislation/regulation unhelpful/unnecessary and worse, nannying.

What it has clearly achieved is to line the pockets of Eaton/MEM. One would have thought the regulation very problematic due to the likely emergence of competing proprietory standards. But the fact that BC3 emerged as such a quick response to the legislation, becoming the only new standard, with MEM the only manufacturer - I actually almost find that suspicious. It certainly isn't good competition policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, perhaps I should adjust my previous post. I still think its bad legislation, but it seems Eaton/MEM do not have a proper monopoly as the 3 pin BC3 is not (quite) unique to them. The competition does seem very slow in making BC3 versions of their products available though.</p>
<p>The legislation should have considered what would happen in the slow transition to BC3. It didn&#8217;t and the result is much consumer inconvenience. To what benefit? The CLF tube shapes are also better than they used to be and CLFs are now cheap enough that when consumers consider their longevity they may well buy them anyway. So I still think the legislation/regulation unhelpful/unnecessary and worse, nannying.</p>
<p>What it has clearly achieved is to line the pockets of Eaton/MEM. One would have thought the regulation very problematic due to the likely emergence of competing proprietory standards. But the fact that BC3 emerged as such a quick response to the legislation, becoming the only new standard, with MEM the only manufacturer - I actually almost find that suspicious. It certainly isn&#8217;t good competition policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/#comment-262360</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 21:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm living in a newly built flat, and recently the light bulb went in one of the rooms. It had been in use for just a few weeks (not continuously of course). Fortunately I didn't rush out to get a replacement. The 'tri-hoop' tube design caught my eye, and so I got up on a chair to closely inspect the specififcation. A label on the light fitting said 'BC3 J slot'. Puzzled I googled and found this page. Its excellent. There's even a discussion of the 'filament bulb as heating' efficiency argument, which previously I'd ownly heard propounded by my father.

I agree with previous posters. The legislation is badly thought through. They've given a company a loophole so that they can have anti-competitive practice enshrined in regulation under a green smoke screen. A legislative cock-up, I think. I'm also of the opinion that Eaton/MEM are most likely in bed with developers, due to their prevalence in newly built properties (even those finished in 2008 when MEM no longer makes the best CFLs).

I shall probably replace all my light fittings. Not because its cheap, but on principle. I'm not going to co-operate with something that reduces market choice (within the CFL sector it reduces choice).

I also agree with the point that these regulations are not forward looking from a technical progress perspective. Idiots in governemnt thought they'd suceeded in locking us in to the green future. Actually they've locked us in to MEM. As MEM settles into their cosy monopolistic position their product performance gets overtaken by the more competitive 2 pin market eg Philips Genie mentioned by Duncan, Dan &#38; Jon D above, or new technologies like LED bulbs mentioned by David. 2 pin is competitive precisely because it is standardised.

So the government have allowed consumers to be locked in to MEM and a particular point in the development process. That was the future then, but is the past now. NOT VERY BRIGHT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m living in a newly built flat, and recently the light bulb went in one of the rooms. It had been in use for just a few weeks (not continuously of course). Fortunately I didn&#8217;t rush out to get a replacement. The &#8216;tri-hoop&#8217; tube design caught my eye, and so I got up on a chair to closely inspect the specififcation. A label on the light fitting said &#8216;BC3 J slot&#8217;. Puzzled I googled and found this page. Its excellent. There&#8217;s even a discussion of the &#8216;filament bulb as heating&#8217; efficiency argument, which previously I&#8217;d ownly heard propounded by my father.</p>
<p>I agree with previous posters. The legislation is badly thought through. They&#8217;ve given a company a loophole so that they can have anti-competitive practice enshrined in regulation under a green smoke screen. A legislative cock-up, I think. I&#8217;m also of the opinion that Eaton/MEM are most likely in bed with developers, due to their prevalence in newly built properties (even those finished in 2008 when MEM no longer makes the best CFLs).</p>
<p>I shall probably replace all my light fittings. Not because its cheap, but on principle. I&#8217;m not going to co-operate with something that reduces market choice (within the CFL sector it reduces choice).</p>
<p>I also agree with the point that these regulations are not forward looking from a technical progress perspective. Idiots in governemnt thought they&#8217;d suceeded in locking us in to the green future. Actually they&#8217;ve locked us in to MEM. As MEM settles into their cosy monopolistic position their product performance gets overtaken by the more competitive 2 pin market eg Philips Genie mentioned by Duncan, Dan &amp; Jon D above, or new technologies like LED bulbs mentioned by David. 2 pin is competitive precisely because it is standardised.</p>
<p>So the government have allowed consumers to be locked in to MEM and a particular point in the development process. That was the future then, but is the past now. NOT VERY BRIGHT!</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/#comment-227243</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 22:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are building a new house that is supposed to have some of the fittings that will only take cfl bulbs.  We are going for maximum energy efficiency, and for that the very latest LED bulbs win.  I have been trying out cfl, halogen and a 5 watt LED bulb with a GU10 fitting (which is no help in meeting Building Regulations).  The LED bulb gives more light than an 11 watt cfl, and is about the same as a 30 watt halogen bulb.  (This is a bit less than claimed, but still impressive.)  These bulbs are very new, but demonstrate why it's such a bad idea for the regulations to prescribe things in such a way that they may prevent people from using the best available technology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are building a new house that is supposed to have some of the fittings that will only take cfl bulbs.  We are going for maximum energy efficiency, and for that the very latest LED bulbs win.  I have been trying out cfl, halogen and a 5 watt LED bulb with a GU10 fitting (which is no help in meeting Building Regulations).  The LED bulb gives more light than an 11 watt cfl, and is about the same as a 30 watt halogen bulb.  (This is a bit less than claimed, but still impressive.)  These bulbs are very new, but demonstrate why it&#8217;s such a bad idea for the regulations to prescribe things in such a way that they may prevent people from using the best available technology.</p>
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		<title>By: Ascription is an Anathema to any Enthusiasm &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Kleptocracy</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/#comment-218592</link>
		<dc:creator>Ascription is an Anathema to any Enthusiasm &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Kleptocracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] very impressed by what Eaton industries managed to pull off in the UK.  They got proprietary ownership of a new light bulb socket, it&#8217;s written right into the building code.  The socket&#8217;s aren&#8217;t that expensive, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] very impressed by what Eaton industries managed to pull off in the UK.  They got proprietary ownership of a new light bulb socket, it&#8217;s written right into the building code.  The socket&#8217;s aren&#8217;t that expensive, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/#comment-218518</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The constructionbusiness.net site amusingly calls these fitting 'revolutionary'. (http://www.constructionbusinessnet.com/electricalexplorer/news/158.html). How on earth can a slight distortion of an existing design be dubbed a revolution?!

I'd be really interested to find more about what the independent shopkeeper said, Paul. I wonder if there's any merit in it? I might email Eaton to ask for some stats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The constructionbusiness.net site amusingly calls these fitting &#8216;revolutionary&#8217;. (http://www.constructionbusinessnet.com/electricalexplorer/news/158.html). How on earth can a slight distortion of an existing design be dubbed a revolution?!</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be really interested to find more about what the independent shopkeeper said, Paul. I wonder if there&#8217;s any merit in it? I might email Eaton to ask for some stats.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/#comment-216861</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am cynical enough to believe there is some corruption behind this.

The only place I could find replacement bulbs was from a small independent lighting retailer who told me that the BC3 bulbs, in spite of being several times more expensive, typically have a far shorter lifespan than other CFLs.

I can see the point behind the legislation, even if it does seem a little heavy-handed (aren't incandescent bulbs being gradually removed from sale over the next few years anyway?), but to allow a single manufacturer to have a monopoly on such a basic household product is insane. How are they enforcing it? What's to stop other manufacturers producing these three-prong bulbs? I presume the internals aren't any different. Do they have a patent or something?

That's what makes me suspect collusion between the manufacturer and whoever draws up the building regulations. It's a licence to print money. As another commenter mentioned, a lot of these fittings end up in newly-built social housing, so people who are least able to afford it are being forced to buy an inferior product whose price is being held artificially high through the manufacturer's monopoly power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am cynical enough to believe there is some corruption behind this.</p>
<p>The only place I could find replacement bulbs was from a small independent lighting retailer who told me that the BC3 bulbs, in spite of being several times more expensive, typically have a far shorter lifespan than other CFLs.</p>
<p>I can see the point behind the legislation, even if it does seem a little heavy-handed (aren&#8217;t incandescent bulbs being gradually removed from sale over the next few years anyway?), but to allow a single manufacturer to have a monopoly on such a basic household product is insane. How are they enforcing it? What&#8217;s to stop other manufacturers producing these three-prong bulbs? I presume the internals aren&#8217;t any different. Do they have a patent or something?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what makes me suspect collusion between the manufacturer and whoever draws up the building regulations. It&#8217;s a licence to print money. As another commenter mentioned, a lot of these fittings end up in newly-built social housing, so people who are least able to afford it are being forced to buy an inferior product whose price is being held artificially high through the manufacturer&#8217;s monopoly power.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/#comment-216336</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree this is a crazy situation as I've got a cupboard full of conventional energy saving bulbs and a pitch black hall as the Mem bulb died and I've not found a store stocking any round Leeds. Ordering bulbs by post seems a odd option and I wouldn't really want another Mem bulb anyway given its the only brand of energy saving bulb in my house that has packed in.... For now I've run some LED fairy lights up the stairs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree this is a crazy situation as I&#8217;ve got a cupboard full of conventional energy saving bulbs and a pitch black hall as the Mem bulb died and I&#8217;ve not found a store stocking any round Leeds. Ordering bulbs by post seems a odd option and I wouldn&#8217;t really want another Mem bulb anyway given its the only brand of energy saving bulb in my house that has packed in&#8230;. For now I&#8217;ve run some LED fairy lights up the stairs!</p>
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		<title>By: Skippy</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/#comment-192816</link>
		<dc:creator>Skippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 10:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re:  About  Eaton MEM BC3 light bulbs and fittings.  

I am in Australia so don’t have the 3 prong problem here ...but a word of comfort...
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Its just a question of time....before a simple adapter can be manufactured to nullify this attack on consumer choice &#38; indeed ones wallet..!! 
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If any reader cares to invest a few $$ in sending just one socket
EG: The fitting into which the 3 pronged globe sits 
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My company will endeavor to have an adapter manufactured and on the UK market within the next 3 months which will and instantly allow consumers to fit the globe of their choice and will comply with UK electrical standards  
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If any kind soul can give me a realistic idea of the amount of 3 pronged fittings already installed around the UK it will be very helpful.
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The fluorescent light market worldwide had a similar problem ….The standard T8 fluorescent tube has an electrical system which restricts light tubes to the T8 category.
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T8 tubes &#38; its system, consume 30% - 50% more power &#38; are much less efficient that the latest T5 tubes now available.
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But the snag...T5 tubes could not be directly fitted to the existing T8 system.  
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Use of a widely available adapter has now resolved that problem and worldwide billions of inefficient T8 tubes are now being instantly replaced, as they fail with the superior T5 just by use a a simple adapter.
. 
When you consider that billions of T8 tubes are currently in use around the world then just have a guess at the value of 30% - 50% savings in use &#38; cost of power and a similar % reduction of Greenhouse gas emission....wow
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Mail address is 

Bright Image P/L Ltd                                      PO Box 2171 GRACEVILLE   QLD. 4075 AUSTRALIA 
www.brightimage.com.au</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re:  About  Eaton MEM BC3 light bulbs and fittings.  </p>
<p>I am in Australia so don’t have the 3 prong problem here &#8230;but a word of comfort&#8230;<br />
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Its just a question of time&#8230;.before a simple adapter can be manufactured to nullify this attack on consumer choice &amp; indeed ones wallet..!!<br />
.<br />
If any reader cares to invest a few $$ in sending just one socket<br />
EG: The fitting into which the 3 pronged globe sits<br />
.<br />
My company will endeavor to have an adapter manufactured and on the UK market within the next 3 months which will and instantly allow consumers to fit the globe of their choice and will comply with UK electrical standards<br />
.<br />
If any kind soul can give me a realistic idea of the amount of 3 pronged fittings already installed around the UK it will be very helpful.<br />
.<br />
The fluorescent light market worldwide had a similar problem ….The standard T8 fluorescent tube has an electrical system which restricts light tubes to the T8 category.<br />
.<br />
T8 tubes &amp; its system, consume 30% - 50% more power &amp; are much less efficient that the latest T5 tubes now available.<br />
.<br />
But the snag&#8230;T5 tubes could not be directly fitted to the existing T8 system.<br />
.<br />
Use of a widely available adapter has now resolved that problem and worldwide billions of inefficient T8 tubes are now being instantly replaced, as they fail with the superior T5 just by use a a simple adapter.<br />
.<br />
When you consider that billions of T8 tubes are currently in use around the world then just have a guess at the value of 30% - 50% savings in use &amp; cost of power and a similar % reduction of Greenhouse gas emission&#8230;.wow<br />
.<br />
Mail address is </p>
<p>Bright Image P/L Ltd                                      PO Box 2171 GRACEVILLE   QLD. 4075 AUSTRALIA<br />
<a href="http://www.brightimage.com.au" rel="nofollow">http://www.brightimage.com.au</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bernard</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/#comment-178168</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess what, like probably many, I found this article/discussion looking to find out where I could get these "famous" BC3 bulbs...
Having moved into a newly built flat around 16 months ago, one of the first things I did was to take out the BC3 fitting off the living room to install our ceiling fan/light which I fitted with 3 12W Philips CFLs at least 4 years ago now.
For some reason, a standard bayonet fitting had been installed in one of the bedrooms, so, in went another Philips CFL 20W which I've had for more years than I can remember !
Having been in the flat for now ~16 months, one of the MEM bulb just died this morning, luckily, I had the living room "spare" at hand but bearing in mind the little use this particular bulb has had, the cynic in me wonders if their longevity has not been designed in order to boost the sales revenue !
Anyway, guess what I'll get later... a spare cheap low energy bulb, and a standard bayonet fitting, altogether probably cheaper than a MEM bulb on it's own !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess what, like probably many, I found this article/discussion looking to find out where I could get these &#8220;famous&#8221; BC3 bulbs&#8230;<br />
Having moved into a newly built flat around 16 months ago, one of the first things I did was to take out the BC3 fitting off the living room to install our ceiling fan/light which I fitted with 3 12W Philips CFLs at least 4 years ago now.<br />
For some reason, a standard bayonet fitting had been installed in one of the bedrooms, so, in went another Philips CFL 20W which I&#8217;ve had for more years than I can remember !<br />
Having been in the flat for now ~16 months, one of the MEM bulb just died this morning, luckily, I had the living room &#8220;spare&#8221; at hand but bearing in mind the little use this particular bulb has had, the cynic in me wonders if their longevity has not been designed in order to boost the sales revenue !<br />
Anyway, guess what I&#8217;ll get later&#8230; a spare cheap low energy bulb, and a standard bayonet fitting, altogether probably cheaper than a MEM bulb on it&#8217;s own !</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/#comment-151517</link>
		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 04:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the problem with these lights is the brightness! im a student and these lights are just not bright enough to study in!! WARM WHITE is too yellow! they should at least have the courtesy to make them in a brighter colour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the problem with these lights is the brightness! im a student and these lights are just not bright enough to study in!! WARM WHITE is too yellow! they should at least have the courtesy to make them in a brighter colour.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/#comment-143670</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 11:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found these after looking for a while on this website called www.allaboutelectrics.co.uk. Very well priced compared to other places ive tried. Heres the link

http://www.allaboutelectrics.co.uk/index.php?doc=15&#38;term=f12%2F66</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found these after looking for a while on this website called <a href="http://www.allaboutelectrics.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.allaboutelectrics.co.uk</a>. Very well priced compared to other places ive tried. Heres the link</p>
<p><a href="http://www.allaboutelectrics.co.uk/index.php?doc=15&amp;term=f12%2F66" rel="nofollow">http://www.allaboutelectrics.co.uk/index.php?doc=15&amp;term=f12%2F66</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mr C</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/#comment-142320</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 22:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did not know that MEM appear to have a monopoly with these BC3 lightbulbs. The irony is that they cost 20 times more than CFL bulbs. I will be hoping that a Chinese company will flood the UK market with the BC3 bulbs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did not know that MEM appear to have a monopoly with these BC3 lightbulbs. The irony is that they cost 20 times more than CFL bulbs. I will be hoping that a Chinese company will flood the UK market with the BC3 bulbs.</p>
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		<title>By: Clare</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/#comment-140731</link>
		<dc:creator>Clare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wondering if anyone could tell me where I could get hold of a MEM BC3 bulb other than online? The cheapest I have found online is £8.64 which is probably before delivery! I have moved into a new flat this week and found I don't have bulbs in 2 rooms and they aren't easy to find!

Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering if anyone could tell me where I could get hold of a MEM BC3 bulb other than online? The cheapest I have found online is £8.64 which is probably before delivery! I have moved into a new flat this week and found I don&#8217;t have bulbs in 2 rooms and they aren&#8217;t easy to find!</p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Wolf</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/#comment-140197</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 14:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's a sad reflection of how short-sighted UK policy makers (and their advisers) are.  All this achieves is to alienate people who will choose to avoid energy efficient lighting rather than embrace it as intended.

This is a classic example of good intentions going badly wrong, with a twisted outcome - though hardly surprising really !!!

As for the electrician who has said that the warranty will be voided, I think he was expecting to be paid to do the job himself ... .  That way he can re-install the offending article in another new dwelling and the cycle continues ...

Sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a sad reflection of how short-sighted UK policy makers (and their advisers) are.  All this achieves is to alienate people who will choose to avoid energy efficient lighting rather than embrace it as intended.</p>
<p>This is a classic example of good intentions going badly wrong, with a twisted outcome - though hardly surprising really !!!</p>
<p>As for the electrician who has said that the warranty will be voided, I think he was expecting to be paid to do the job himself &#8230; .  That way he can re-install the offending article in another new dwelling and the cycle continues &#8230;</p>
<p>Sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/#comment-138159</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 15:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have these intensly annoying bulbs in my flat. I am currently trying to buy a replacement bulb as my boyfriend smashed one. First I had a nightmare trying to find one, then after trawling through lightbulb websites, I have managed to find some, but they cost £13!! I hate the fact that one of the selling points is 'think of all the money you will save' - hardly likely when a light bulb costs that much. I also had to throw away all of my spare bulbs from my old flat. I also feel like I live in an office due to the delay and flickering when I turn the light on and the light quality is terrible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have these intensly annoying bulbs in my flat. I am currently trying to buy a replacement bulb as my boyfriend smashed one. First I had a nightmare trying to find one, then after trawling through lightbulb websites, I have managed to find some, but they cost £13!! I hate the fact that one of the selling points is &#8216;think of all the money you will save&#8217; - hardly likely when a light bulb costs that much. I also had to throw away all of my spare bulbs from my old flat. I also feel like I live in an office due to the delay and flickering when I turn the light on and the light quality is terrible.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon d</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/#comment-129730</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 17:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... And the free bulbs are phillips genie which are smaller, have better colour, less delay starting and are more efficient (18w for 100w equiv cf 20w with MEM's BC3 CFL mfgs stated). BC3 is a proprietory lock in to what cfl's were 10 years ago imo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; And the free bulbs are phillips genie which are smaller, have better colour, less delay starting and are more efficient (18w for 100w equiv cf 20w with MEM&#8217;s BC3 CFL mfgs stated). BC3 is a proprietory lock in to what cfl&#8217;s were 10 years ago imo.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon d</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/#comment-129728</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 16:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My mum's just moved into a brand new sheltered accom flat with these fittings. In addition to the problems above she gets standard BC CFL's for free from the council and the electric utility under some euro scheme. BC3 works against these existing schemes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mum&#8217;s just moved into a brand new sheltered accom flat with these fittings. In addition to the problems above she gets standard BC CFL&#8217;s for free from the council and the electric utility under some euro scheme. BC3 works against these existing schemes</p>
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		<title>By: janet</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/#comment-110209</link>
		<dc:creator>janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 09:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wanted to add that I live in new social housing where they have fitted these light fittings, two of my so called energy saving bulbs have given up in under six months, and I now find I can't afford to replace them because of the cost. Surely this should be a concern when they are put in low income housing? Apparently not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to add that I live in new social housing where they have fitted these light fittings, two of my so called energy saving bulbs have given up in under six months, and I now find I can&#8217;t afford to replace them because of the cost. Surely this should be a concern when they are put in low income housing? Apparently not.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/#comment-107144</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 14:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well  I too find I've got these weird fittings in a house I'm renting. Having used  'normal' energy efficient light bulbs for ages I have a box load of spares and needed to replace some that had blown but how odd they don't fit.
Impressed I'm not - not only have I wasted money driving around 4 DIY shops only to find that they didn't have any of these weird bulbs, I now have to waste more money needing to buy specific bulbs.
I'll be complaining to the rental company as this is a H&#38;S issue for me.
2 kids under 5 and 2 stair wells with no light - hmmm to hell with the regulations these fittings will be being changed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well  I too find I&#8217;ve got these weird fittings in a house I&#8217;m renting. Having used  &#8216;normal&#8217; energy efficient light bulbs for ages I have a box load of spares and needed to replace some that had blown but how odd they don&#8217;t fit.<br />
Impressed I&#8217;m not - not only have I wasted money driving around 4 DIY shops only to find that they didn&#8217;t have any of these weird bulbs, I now have to waste more money needing to buy specific bulbs.<br />
I&#8217;ll be complaining to the rental company as this is a H&amp;S issue for me.<br />
2 kids under 5 and 2 stair wells with no light - hmmm to hell with the regulations these fittings will be being changed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/#comment-83629</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 23:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An update on my side...

I swapped some of the fittings, it was very easy. I just swapped some of the Standard ones over to different rooms.

The down point was, according to the electricians, is that by doing so I voided my warranty on the electirc works....which seems daft since it was only the actualy bulb housing I swapped (i.e no movement of wiring).

So its easy enough to do if required.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An update on my side&#8230;</p>
<p>I swapped some of the fittings, it was very easy. I just swapped some of the Standard ones over to different rooms.</p>
<p>The down point was, according to the electricians, is that by doing so I voided my warranty on the electirc works&#8230;.which seems daft since it was only the actualy bulb housing I swapped (i.e no movement of wiring).</p>
<p>So its easy enough to do if required.</p>
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