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	<title>Comments on: A bright idea?</title>
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		<title>By: Peter G. Shaw</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-431253</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter G. Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t comment on the 3-prong CFL&#039;s as I don&#039;t have any, but I have had a few different makes of 2 prong CFL&#039;s. Of these, Memolux have proven to have the shortest life of all: out of 8 4U&#039;s bought for a particular fitting which uses 3 at a time (so 5 spares), I am now down to 2 spares. On the otherhand, I have not yet had to change any of the Philips or Osram CFL&#039;s, one of which has been in place for something like 14 years. (OK not continuously used, but even so..)

Now I don&#039;t know for sure, but is it possible that Memolux are made by MEM? Reading the above does make me wonder.

There is another point re CFL&#039;s.My understanding is that they contain Mercury whilst incandescent do not. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable could comment.

Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t comment on the 3-prong CFL&#8217;s as I don&#8217;t have any, but I have had a few different makes of 2 prong CFL&#8217;s. Of these, Memolux have proven to have the shortest life of all: out of 8 4U&#8217;s bought for a particular fitting which uses 3 at a time (so 5 spares), I am now down to 2 spares. On the otherhand, I have not yet had to change any of the Philips or Osram CFL&#8217;s, one of which has been in place for something like 14 years. (OK not continuously used, but even so..)</p>
<p>Now I don&#8217;t know for sure, but is it possible that Memolux are made by MEM? Reading the above does make me wonder.</p>
<p>There is another point re CFL&#8217;s.My understanding is that they contain Mercury whilst incandescent do not. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable could comment.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Kernick</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-421550</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Kernick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 19:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I replaced my MEM light housing with standard ones. £2.00 per fitting therfore £5 cheaper than the bulb. I am now able to use standard BC fitting energy saving bulbs :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I replaced my MEM light housing with standard ones. £2.00 per fitting therfore £5 cheaper than the bulb. I am now able to use standard BC fitting energy saving bulbs <img src='http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Phil Williams</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-413469</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like one of your other correspondents, I have found that these BC3 bulbs have nothing like the lifespan quoted - I have got through 6 in 2 years with just 2 sockets in a flat hallway - now only bother with a bulb in one - at least saving energy that way. My guess is that they fail at anything between 500-1000 hours.

Not sure of the facts, but Ethical Products also appears to have gone out of business, meaning typical prices on the web are reaching £15 a bulb.

Am changing my sockets to 2-pin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like one of your other correspondents, I have found that these BC3 bulbs have nothing like the lifespan quoted &#8211; I have got through 6 in 2 years with just 2 sockets in a flat hallway &#8211; now only bother with a bulb in one &#8211; at least saving energy that way. My guess is that they fail at anything between 500-1000 hours.</p>
<p>Not sure of the facts, but Ethical Products also appears to have gone out of business, meaning typical prices on the web are reaching £15 a bulb.</p>
<p>Am changing my sockets to 2-pin.</p>
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		<title>By: molefish</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-412933</link>
		<dc:creator>molefish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 07:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone know how to petition to Office of the Deputy Prime Minister?  This has really p***ed me off.  My sister-in-law just moved into a flat, she low income and in a bad situation, can&#039;t find the bulbs, can&#039;t afford to pay £10 a piece.  This is rediculous.  I don&#039;t know anyone that still buys filament bulbs anyway, nearly every house I go into has CFLs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone know how to petition to Office of the Deputy Prime Minister?  This has really p***ed me off.  My sister-in-law just moved into a flat, she low income and in a bad situation, can&#8217;t find the bulbs, can&#8217;t afford to pay £10 a piece.  This is rediculous.  I don&#8217;t know anyone that still buys filament bulbs anyway, nearly every house I go into has CFLs.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-404860</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ageee, I have just changed a light fitting in my son&#039;s new house, very simple job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ageee, I have just changed a light fitting in my son&#8217;s new house, very simple job.</p>
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		<title>By: ancientone</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-404849</link>
		<dc:creator>ancientone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My MEM has lasted at most 250 hours.  Aside from trying to source one of these wreteched things, I&#039;m feeling decidedly ripped off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My MEM has lasted at most 250 hours.  Aside from trying to source one of these wreteched things, I&#8217;m feeling decidedly ripped off.</p>
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		<title>By: Silvertech</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-380322</link>
		<dc:creator>Silvertech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 17:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For MIKE    who wants to do blacklight

you are very lucky     there was a previous use of BC3 for mercury discharge lamps that required the use of a separate choke upstream, one of the variants was a Blacklight Blue   MBU/W 125   if this found its way to a direct socket     like everyone reading this is troubled with    then the bulb would take a very high current and eventually melt, and thats a fire risk    plus should the outer envelope crack first you would see a very bright blue light but would not see the UV A + B, and would know nothing until you see the skin cancer or eye damage doctor  when the inner part    a quartz tube cracked there would be a significant release of Mercury     and thats a beastly poison,    for this reason alone even if it happened only once BC 3  should have never been reused

for completeness there was also a BC3 fireglow non standard lamp an orange tinted ordinary light bulb who&#039;s power was the maximum that could be used under the plastic &quot;coals&quot; in flame effect electric heaters  1960s to 1990s ?   but that would not be dangerous 

    and yes EATON are greedy grasping .... 

They bought up MEM an old established electrical manufacturer from Birmingham UK  and they always had good relations with architects and specifiers so only had to distribute leaflets saying this is the solution to part I 

and I would question if the lamps are made in UK   most probable they buy in regular CFLs in a part finished state and just fit the cap, perfectly justifiable to badge this as made in UK as the greater part 95% of the value is added at assembly. 

Eaton / MEM website has some PDFs you can reach from

http://www.eaton.com/EatonCom/ProductsServices/MEM/Products/WiringAccessories/CIRCA/CT_141063

or just go to the main ETON.com website or the 2008 report 

http://www1.eaton.com/eatonar08/01_00.htm

and see all the other things EATON is involved in, then boycott or blacklist the wretched lot of them

please take the time because they have taken the time to rob each of us every time we have to buy one of these damnable things</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For MIKE    who wants to do blacklight</p>
<p>you are very lucky     there was a previous use of BC3 for mercury discharge lamps that required the use of a separate choke upstream, one of the variants was a Blacklight Blue   MBU/W 125   if this found its way to a direct socket     like everyone reading this is troubled with    then the bulb would take a very high current and eventually melt, and thats a fire risk    plus should the outer envelope crack first you would see a very bright blue light but would not see the UV A + B, and would know nothing until you see the skin cancer or eye damage doctor  when the inner part    a quartz tube cracked there would be a significant release of Mercury     and thats a beastly poison,    for this reason alone even if it happened only once BC 3  should have never been reused</p>
<p>for completeness there was also a BC3 fireglow non standard lamp an orange tinted ordinary light bulb who&#8217;s power was the maximum that could be used under the plastic &#8220;coals&#8221; in flame effect electric heaters  1960s to 1990s ?   but that would not be dangerous </p>
<p>    and yes EATON are greedy grasping &#8230;. </p>
<p>They bought up MEM an old established electrical manufacturer from Birmingham UK  and they always had good relations with architects and specifiers so only had to distribute leaflets saying this is the solution to part I </p>
<p>and I would question if the lamps are made in UK   most probable they buy in regular CFLs in a part finished state and just fit the cap, perfectly justifiable to badge this as made in UK as the greater part 95% of the value is added at assembly. </p>
<p>Eaton / MEM website has some PDFs you can reach from</p>
<p><a href="http://www.eaton.com/EatonCom/ProductsServices/MEM/Products/WiringAccessories/CIRCA/CT_141063" rel="nofollow">http://www.eaton.com/EatonCom/ProductsServices/MEM/Products/WiringAccessories/CIRCA/CT_141063</a></p>
<p>or just go to the main ETON.com website or the 2008 report </p>
<p><a href="http://www1.eaton.com/eatonar08/01_00.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www1.eaton.com/eatonar08/01_00.htm</a></p>
<p>and see all the other things EATON is involved in, then boycott or blacklist the wretched lot of them</p>
<p>please take the time because they have taken the time to rob each of us every time we have to buy one of these damnable things</p>
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		<title>By: steve H</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-316360</link>
		<dc:creator>steve H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 22:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was asked by my daughter to help when the first of her BC3 lights bit the dust. The solution was easy - I removed the BC3 fitting and merely replaced it with a standard 2 point bayonet fitting in which she could install standard energy saving bulbs.
Net cost? £1.40 - go to Screwfix if you have problems - the new design is a money making scheme that we have all witnessed before! If people are sensible they won&#039;t put themselves or the environment at risk - the advice on altering the holder to accept the older bulbs is fraught with safety implications. If you are not confident in changing the bulb holders, get a qualified and competent electrician to do it for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was asked by my daughter to help when the first of her BC3 lights bit the dust. The solution was easy &#8211; I removed the BC3 fitting and merely replaced it with a standard 2 point bayonet fitting in which she could install standard energy saving bulbs.<br />
Net cost? £1.40 &#8211; go to Screwfix if you have problems &#8211; the new design is a money making scheme that we have all witnessed before! If people are sensible they won&#8217;t put themselves or the environment at risk &#8211; the advice on altering the holder to accept the older bulbs is fraught with safety implications. If you are not confident in changing the bulb holders, get a qualified and competent electrician to do it for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Lightbulbs as &#8216;architectures of control&#8217; &#171; Systems Thinkers</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-310428</link>
		<dc:creator>Lightbulbs as &#8216;architectures of control&#8217; &#171; Systems Thinkers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] far, a bit irritating, but Dan Lockton has written about these bulbs as an example of an &#8216;architecture of control&#8217; - a deliberate attempt to regulate good behaviour (use of CFLs) through structural factors rather [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] far, a bit irritating, but Dan Lockton has written about these bulbs as an example of an &#8216;architecture of control&#8217; &#8211; a deliberate attempt to regulate good behaviour (use of CFLs) through structural factors rather [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Herinder</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-303384</link>
		<dc:creator>Herinder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 22:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best deal I have identified is still about £10 each (inclusive of VAT and postage) which is still 10 times more than the 99p that the standard 2 pin Energy Saving bulbs can be purchased for at supermarkets and discount stores. Good luck to all those stuck in this mess. Nov 2008.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best deal I have identified is still about £10 each (inclusive of VAT and postage) which is still 10 times more than the 99p that the standard 2 pin Energy Saving bulbs can be purchased for at supermarkets and discount stores. Good luck to all those stuck in this mess. Nov 2008.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-262407</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, perhaps I should adjust my previous post. I still think its bad legislation, but it seems Eaton/MEM do not have a proper monopoly as the 3 pin BC3 is not (quite) unique to them. The competition does seem very slow in making BC3 versions of their products available though.

The legislation should have considered what would happen in the slow transition to BC3. It didn&#039;t and the result is much consumer inconvenience. To what benefit? The CLF tube shapes are also better than they used to be and CLFs are now cheap enough that when consumers consider their longevity they may well buy them anyway. So I still think the legislation/regulation unhelpful/unnecessary and worse, nannying.

What it has clearly achieved is to line the pockets of Eaton/MEM. One would have thought the regulation very problematic due to the likely emergence of competing proprietory standards. But the fact that BC3 emerged as such a quick response to the legislation, becoming the only new standard, with MEM the only manufacturer - I actually almost find that suspicious. It certainly isn&#039;t good competition policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, perhaps I should adjust my previous post. I still think its bad legislation, but it seems Eaton/MEM do not have a proper monopoly as the 3 pin BC3 is not (quite) unique to them. The competition does seem very slow in making BC3 versions of their products available though.</p>
<p>The legislation should have considered what would happen in the slow transition to BC3. It didn&#8217;t and the result is much consumer inconvenience. To what benefit? The CLF tube shapes are also better than they used to be and CLFs are now cheap enough that when consumers consider their longevity they may well buy them anyway. So I still think the legislation/regulation unhelpful/unnecessary and worse, nannying.</p>
<p>What it has clearly achieved is to line the pockets of Eaton/MEM. One would have thought the regulation very problematic due to the likely emergence of competing proprietory standards. But the fact that BC3 emerged as such a quick response to the legislation, becoming the only new standard, with MEM the only manufacturer &#8211; I actually almost find that suspicious. It certainly isn&#8217;t good competition policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-262360</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 21:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m living in a newly built flat, and recently the light bulb went in one of the rooms. It had been in use for just a few weeks (not continuously of course). Fortunately I didn&#039;t rush out to get a replacement. The &#039;tri-hoop&#039; tube design caught my eye, and so I got up on a chair to closely inspect the specififcation. A label on the light fitting said &#039;BC3 J slot&#039;. Puzzled I googled and found this page. Its excellent. There&#039;s even a discussion of the &#039;filament bulb as heating&#039; efficiency argument, which previously I&#039;d ownly heard propounded by my father.

I agree with previous posters. The legislation is badly thought through. They&#039;ve given a company a loophole so that they can have anti-competitive practice enshrined in regulation under a green smoke screen. A legislative cock-up, I think. I&#039;m also of the opinion that Eaton/MEM are most likely in bed with developers, due to their prevalence in newly built properties (even those finished in 2008 when MEM no longer makes the best CFLs).

I shall probably replace all my light fittings. Not because its cheap, but on principle. I&#039;m not going to co-operate with something that reduces market choice (within the CFL sector it reduces choice).

I also agree with the point that these regulations are not forward looking from a technical progress perspective. Idiots in governemnt thought they&#039;d suceeded in locking us in to the green future. Actually they&#039;ve locked us in to MEM. As MEM settles into their cosy monopolistic position their product performance gets overtaken by the more competitive 2 pin market eg Philips Genie mentioned by Duncan, Dan &amp; Jon D above, or new technologies like LED bulbs mentioned by David. 2 pin is competitive precisely because it is standardised.

So the government have allowed consumers to be locked in to MEM and a particular point in the development process. That was the future then, but is the past now. NOT VERY BRIGHT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m living in a newly built flat, and recently the light bulb went in one of the rooms. It had been in use for just a few weeks (not continuously of course). Fortunately I didn&#8217;t rush out to get a replacement. The &#8216;tri-hoop&#8217; tube design caught my eye, and so I got up on a chair to closely inspect the specififcation. A label on the light fitting said &#8216;BC3 J slot&#8217;. Puzzled I googled and found this page. Its excellent. There&#8217;s even a discussion of the &#8216;filament bulb as heating&#8217; efficiency argument, which previously I&#8217;d ownly heard propounded by my father.</p>
<p>I agree with previous posters. The legislation is badly thought through. They&#8217;ve given a company a loophole so that they can have anti-competitive practice enshrined in regulation under a green smoke screen. A legislative cock-up, I think. I&#8217;m also of the opinion that Eaton/MEM are most likely in bed with developers, due to their prevalence in newly built properties (even those finished in 2008 when MEM no longer makes the best CFLs).</p>
<p>I shall probably replace all my light fittings. Not because its cheap, but on principle. I&#8217;m not going to co-operate with something that reduces market choice (within the CFL sector it reduces choice).</p>
<p>I also agree with the point that these regulations are not forward looking from a technical progress perspective. Idiots in governemnt thought they&#8217;d suceeded in locking us in to the green future. Actually they&#8217;ve locked us in to MEM. As MEM settles into their cosy monopolistic position their product performance gets overtaken by the more competitive 2 pin market eg Philips Genie mentioned by Duncan, Dan &amp; Jon D above, or new technologies like LED bulbs mentioned by David. 2 pin is competitive precisely because it is standardised.</p>
<p>So the government have allowed consumers to be locked in to MEM and a particular point in the development process. That was the future then, but is the past now. NOT VERY BRIGHT!</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 22:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are building a new house that is supposed to have some of the fittings that will only take cfl bulbs.  We are going for maximum energy efficiency, and for that the very latest LED bulbs win.  I have been trying out cfl, halogen and a 5 watt LED bulb with a GU10 fitting (which is no help in meeting Building Regulations).  The LED bulb gives more light than an 11 watt cfl, and is about the same as a 30 watt halogen bulb.  (This is a bit less than claimed, but still impressive.)  These bulbs are very new, but demonstrate why it&#039;s such a bad idea for the regulations to prescribe things in such a way that they may prevent people from using the best available technology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are building a new house that is supposed to have some of the fittings that will only take cfl bulbs.  We are going for maximum energy efficiency, and for that the very latest LED bulbs win.  I have been trying out cfl, halogen and a 5 watt LED bulb with a GU10 fitting (which is no help in meeting Building Regulations).  The LED bulb gives more light than an 11 watt cfl, and is about the same as a 30 watt halogen bulb.  (This is a bit less than claimed, but still impressive.)  These bulbs are very new, but demonstrate why it&#8217;s such a bad idea for the regulations to prescribe things in such a way that they may prevent people from using the best available technology.</p>
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		<title>By: Ascription is an Anathema to any Enthusiasm &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Kleptocracy</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-218592</link>
		<dc:creator>Ascription is an Anathema to any Enthusiasm &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Kleptocracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] very impressed by what Eaton industries managed to pull off in the UK.  They got proprietary ownership of a new light bulb socket, it&#8217;s written right into the building code.  The socket&#8217;s aren&#8217;t that expensive, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] very impressed by what Eaton industries managed to pull off in the UK.  They got proprietary ownership of a new light bulb socket, it&#8217;s written right into the building code.  The socket&#8217;s aren&#8217;t that expensive, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-218518</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The constructionbusiness.net site amusingly calls these fitting &#039;revolutionary&#039;. (http://www.constructionbusinessnet.com/electricalexplorer/news/158.html). How on earth can a slight distortion of an existing design be dubbed a revolution?!

I&#039;d be really interested to find more about what the independent shopkeeper said, Paul. I wonder if there&#039;s any merit in it? I might email Eaton to ask for some stats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The constructionbusiness.net site amusingly calls these fitting &#8216;revolutionary&#8217;. (<a href="http://www.constructionbusinessnet.com/electricalexplorer/news/158.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.constructionbusinessnet.com/electricalexplorer/news/158.html</a>). How on earth can a slight distortion of an existing design be dubbed a revolution?!</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be really interested to find more about what the independent shopkeeper said, Paul. I wonder if there&#8217;s any merit in it? I might email Eaton to ask for some stats.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-216861</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am cynical enough to believe there is some corruption behind this.

The only place I could find replacement bulbs was from a small independent lighting retailer who told me that the BC3 bulbs, in spite of being several times more expensive, typically have a far shorter lifespan than other CFLs.

I can see the point behind the legislation, even if it does seem a little heavy-handed (aren&#039;t incandescent bulbs being gradually removed from sale over the next few years anyway?), but to allow a single manufacturer to have a monopoly on such a basic household product is insane. How are they enforcing it? What&#039;s to stop other manufacturers producing these three-prong bulbs? I presume the internals aren&#039;t any different. Do they have a patent or something?

That&#039;s what makes me suspect collusion between the manufacturer and whoever draws up the building regulations. It&#039;s a licence to print money. As another commenter mentioned, a lot of these fittings end up in newly-built social housing, so people who are least able to afford it are being forced to buy an inferior product whose price is being held artificially high through the manufacturer&#039;s monopoly power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am cynical enough to believe there is some corruption behind this.</p>
<p>The only place I could find replacement bulbs was from a small independent lighting retailer who told me that the BC3 bulbs, in spite of being several times more expensive, typically have a far shorter lifespan than other CFLs.</p>
<p>I can see the point behind the legislation, even if it does seem a little heavy-handed (aren&#8217;t incandescent bulbs being gradually removed from sale over the next few years anyway?), but to allow a single manufacturer to have a monopoly on such a basic household product is insane. How are they enforcing it? What&#8217;s to stop other manufacturers producing these three-prong bulbs? I presume the internals aren&#8217;t any different. Do they have a patent or something?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what makes me suspect collusion between the manufacturer and whoever draws up the building regulations. It&#8217;s a licence to print money. As another commenter mentioned, a lot of these fittings end up in newly-built social housing, so people who are least able to afford it are being forced to buy an inferior product whose price is being held artificially high through the manufacturer&#8217;s monopoly power.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree this is a crazy situation as I&#039;ve got a cupboard full of conventional energy saving bulbs and a pitch black hall as the Mem bulb died and I&#039;ve not found a store stocking any round Leeds. Ordering bulbs by post seems a odd option and I wouldn&#039;t really want another Mem bulb anyway given its the only brand of energy saving bulb in my house that has packed in.... For now I&#039;ve run some LED fairy lights up the stairs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree this is a crazy situation as I&#8217;ve got a cupboard full of conventional energy saving bulbs and a pitch black hall as the Mem bulb died and I&#8217;ve not found a store stocking any round Leeds. Ordering bulbs by post seems a odd option and I wouldn&#8217;t really want another Mem bulb anyway given its the only brand of energy saving bulb in my house that has packed in&#8230;. For now I&#8217;ve run some LED fairy lights up the stairs!</p>
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		<title>By: Skippy</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-192816</link>
		<dc:creator>Skippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 10:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re:  About  Eaton MEM BC3 light bulbs and fittings.  

I am in Australia so don’t have the 3 prong problem here ...but a word of comfort...
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Its just a question of time....before a simple adapter can be manufactured to nullify this attack on consumer choice &amp; indeed ones wallet..!! 
.
If any reader cares to invest a few $$ in sending just one socket
EG: The fitting into which the 3 pronged globe sits 
.   
My company will endeavor to have an adapter manufactured and on the UK market within the next 3 months which will and instantly allow consumers to fit the globe of their choice and will comply with UK electrical standards  
.
If any kind soul can give me a realistic idea of the amount of 3 pronged fittings already installed around the UK it will be very helpful.
.
The fluorescent light market worldwide had a similar problem ….The standard T8 fluorescent tube has an electrical system which restricts light tubes to the T8 category.
.
T8 tubes &amp; its system, consume 30% - 50% more power &amp; are much less efficient that the latest T5 tubes now available.
.
But the snag...T5 tubes could not be directly fitted to the existing T8 system.  
.
Use of a widely available adapter has now resolved that problem and worldwide billions of inefficient T8 tubes are now being instantly replaced, as they fail with the superior T5 just by use a a simple adapter.
. 
When you consider that billions of T8 tubes are currently in use around the world then just have a guess at the value of 30% - 50% savings in use &amp; cost of power and a similar % reduction of Greenhouse gas emission....wow
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Mail address is 

Bright Image P/L Ltd                                      PO Box 2171 GRACEVILLE   QLD. 4075 AUSTRALIA 
www.brightimage.com.au</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re:  About  Eaton MEM BC3 light bulbs and fittings.  </p>
<p>I am in Australia so don’t have the 3 prong problem here &#8230;but a word of comfort&#8230;<br />
.<br />
Its just a question of time&#8230;.before a simple adapter can be manufactured to nullify this attack on consumer choice &amp; indeed ones wallet..!!<br />
.<br />
If any reader cares to invest a few $$ in sending just one socket<br />
EG: The fitting into which the 3 pronged globe sits<br />
.<br />
My company will endeavor to have an adapter manufactured and on the UK market within the next 3 months which will and instantly allow consumers to fit the globe of their choice and will comply with UK electrical standards<br />
.<br />
If any kind soul can give me a realistic idea of the amount of 3 pronged fittings already installed around the UK it will be very helpful.<br />
.<br />
The fluorescent light market worldwide had a similar problem ….The standard T8 fluorescent tube has an electrical system which restricts light tubes to the T8 category.<br />
.<br />
T8 tubes &amp; its system, consume 30% &#8211; 50% more power &amp; are much less efficient that the latest T5 tubes now available.<br />
.<br />
But the snag&#8230;T5 tubes could not be directly fitted to the existing T8 system.<br />
.<br />
Use of a widely available adapter has now resolved that problem and worldwide billions of inefficient T8 tubes are now being instantly replaced, as they fail with the superior T5 just by use a a simple adapter.<br />
.<br />
When you consider that billions of T8 tubes are currently in use around the world then just have a guess at the value of 30% &#8211; 50% savings in use &amp; cost of power and a similar % reduction of Greenhouse gas emission&#8230;.wow<br />
.<br />
Mail address is </p>
<p>Bright Image P/L Ltd                                      PO Box 2171 GRACEVILLE   QLD. 4075 AUSTRALIA<br />
<a href="http://www.brightimage.com.au" rel="nofollow">http://www.brightimage.com.au</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bernard</title>
		<link>http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/2007/03/28/a-bright-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-178168</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess what, like probably many, I found this article/discussion looking to find out where I could get these &quot;famous&quot; BC3 bulbs...
Having moved into a newly built flat around 16 months ago, one of the first things I did was to take out the BC3 fitting off the living room to install our ceiling fan/light which I fitted with 3 12W Philips CFLs at least 4 years ago now.
For some reason, a standard bayonet fitting had been installed in one of the bedrooms, so, in went another Philips CFL 20W which I&#039;ve had for more years than I can remember !
Having been in the flat for now ~16 months, one of the MEM bulb just died this morning, luckily, I had the living room &quot;spare&quot; at hand but bearing in mind the little use this particular bulb has had, the cynic in me wonders if their longevity has not been designed in order to boost the sales revenue !
Anyway, guess what I&#039;ll get later... a spare cheap low energy bulb, and a standard bayonet fitting, altogether probably cheaper than a MEM bulb on it&#039;s own !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess what, like probably many, I found this article/discussion looking to find out where I could get these &#8220;famous&#8221; BC3 bulbs&#8230;<br />
Having moved into a newly built flat around 16 months ago, one of the first things I did was to take out the BC3 fitting off the living room to install our ceiling fan/light which I fitted with 3 12W Philips CFLs at least 4 years ago now.<br />
For some reason, a standard bayonet fitting had been installed in one of the bedrooms, so, in went another Philips CFL 20W which I&#8217;ve had for more years than I can remember !<br />
Having been in the flat for now ~16 months, one of the MEM bulb just died this morning, luckily, I had the living room &#8220;spare&#8221; at hand but bearing in mind the little use this particular bulb has had, the cynic in me wonders if their longevity has not been designed in order to boost the sales revenue !<br />
Anyway, guess what I&#8217;ll get later&#8230; a spare cheap low energy bulb, and a standard bayonet fitting, altogether probably cheaper than a MEM bulb on it&#8217;s own !</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 04:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the problem with these lights is the brightness! im a student and these lights are just not bright enough to study in!! WARM WHITE is too yellow! they should at least have the courtesy to make them in a brighter colour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the problem with these lights is the brightness! im a student and these lights are just not bright enough to study in!! WARM WHITE is too yellow! they should at least have the courtesy to make them in a brighter colour.</p>
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