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	<title>Comments on: More thoughts on the Eaton MEM BC3, CFLs and Power Factor</title>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 05:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just moved into a new house and all of the ceiling light sockets are BC3 fitting.  As far as I can tell, Mem only make four bulbs, two colours, warm and cool white and 15w or 20w.

My hobby is photography and I use a room to print my photos using a high quality ink jet printer and a colour calibrated computer screen. Under these 'coloured' lights the prints and the monitor look wrong, so I bought a 65k daylight bulb. It is a two pin fitting and now I cannot use it. We also cannot fit the more attractive 'traditional' shaped low energy bulbs.  The whole thing is a total mess in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just moved into a new house and all of the ceiling light sockets are BC3 fitting.  As far as I can tell, Mem only make four bulbs, two colours, warm and cool white and 15w or 20w.</p>
<p>My hobby is photography and I use a room to print my photos using a high quality ink jet printer and a colour calibrated computer screen. Under these &#8216;coloured&#8217; lights the prints and the monitor look wrong, so I bought a 65k daylight bulb. It is a two pin fitting and now I cannot use it. We also cannot fit the more attractive &#8216;traditional&#8217; shaped low energy bulbs.  The whole thing is a total mess in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rich,

It's trivially easy to do - and the standard 2-pin bayonet fittings can often be had for 99p or so in DIY stores. But - a) make sure the power's off - really sure! (it doesn't matter which way round the live and neutral wires are in the fitting, so don't worry about that) and b) be aware that it _might_ actually be illegal to do this work yourself given the regulations as they are now (&lt;a href="http://www.partp.co.uk/consumer/consumer_faq.asp" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.partp.co.uk/consumer/consumer_faq.asp&lt;/a&gt; ), depending on what room you do it in. Presumably if your house/flat came with the MEM BC3 sockets, it was to meet the building regs (&lt;a href="http://www.constructionbusinessnet.com/electricalexplorer/news/158.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.constructionbusinessnet.com/electricalexplorer/news/158.html&lt;/a&gt; ) so I don't know what a surveyor would say when you come to sell.

It's actually quite easy with a pair of pliers to bend the BC3 fittings to allow a standard 2-pin bayonet bulb to fit - at some point I'll put some photos on the blog of how to do it - but again, if you do this, make damn sure the electricity's switched off first and there's no-one around who might switch it on while you're doing it.

The whole system is ridiculous and it really needs to be shown up as the shambles it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rich,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s trivially easy to do - and the standard 2-pin bayonet fittings can often be had for 99p or so in DIY stores. But - a) make sure the power&#8217;s off - really sure! (it doesn&#8217;t matter which way round the live and neutral wires are in the fitting, so don&#8217;t worry about that) and b) be aware that it _might_ actually be illegal to do this work yourself given the regulations as they are now (<a href="http://www.partp.co.uk/consumer/consumer_faq.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.partp.co.uk/consumer/consumer_faq.asp</a> ), depending on what room you do it in. Presumably if your house/flat came with the MEM BC3 sockets, it was to meet the building regs (<a href="http://www.constructionbusinessnet.com/electricalexplorer/news/158.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.constructionbusinessnet.com/electricalexplorer/news/158.html</a> ) so I don&#8217;t know what a surveyor would say when you come to sell.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s actually quite easy with a pair of pliers to bend the BC3 fittings to allow a standard 2-pin bayonet bulb to fit - at some point I&#8217;ll put some photos on the blog of how to do it - but again, if you do this, make damn sure the electricity&#8217;s switched off first and there&#8217;s no-one around who might switch it on while you&#8217;re doing it.</p>
<p>The whole system is ridiculous and it really needs to be shown up as the shambles it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Changing the fittings sounds the most economical way forward espec as I've got a stock of conventional CFIs in the cupboard. How easy is this to do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Changing the fittings sounds the most economical way forward espec as I&#8217;ve got a stock of conventional CFIs in the cupboard. How easy is this to do?</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I HATE these 3 pin bulbs, total B&#38;ll&#38;&#38;^t we are forced to use these in rented accommodation in new builds and now the bulbs are not available. Sure, online, but must I really take a day off from work to change a light bulb, so that i can stay home and receive the delivery. Is there an adapter? I cant change the fitting as it is rented accom. What a total disaster this is. Central govt strikes again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I HATE these 3 pin bulbs, total B&amp;ll&amp;&amp;^t we are forced to use these in rented accommodation in new builds and now the bulbs are not available. Sure, online, but must I really take a day off from work to change a light bulb, so that i can stay home and receive the delivery. Is there an adapter? I cant change the fitting as it is rented accom. What a total disaster this is. Central govt strikes again.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 22:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just spent 79p per fitting replacing the lampholders in a brand new house as nowhere local sells BC3 lamps, and £9 each online as opposed to 49p for Phillips CFls in Homebase: I ask you??!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just spent 79p per fitting replacing the lampholders in a brand new house as nowhere local sells BC3 lamps, and £9 each online as opposed to 49p for Phillips CFls in Homebase: I ask you??!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Porter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 07:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A quick note regarding the article covering the use of fluorescent lighting, notably the issue of Power Factor, reference my article in the magazine the Engineer. I can confirm that further work has been conducted on this particular issue. As a consequence, there are two new items that I can add to further prove that the Compact Fluorescent lamp is not the good idea that so many assume. These elements include the announcement made by General Electric in the USA that they have developed an incandescent lamp that is as efficient as a fluorescent lamp, without the problems of poor power factor, poor light quality, long start times, the inability to use dimmer switches, etc.

Note: In the UK, when the efficiency comparison was made between incandescent lamps and fluorescent lamps, this was comparing the very basic, cheapest incandescent lamps, not the more efficient halogen lamps, the latter being readily available. Therefore, the indication that a 20W fluorsecent light bulb replacement is quivalent to a 100W incandescent lamp is only true when comparing with the very basic incandescent lamp.

The other news is that of a better method of producing white Light Emitting Diodes that are significantly better than existing devices, in addition to offering a significantly longer life, that is 100,000 hours. The process involves better precision in the manufacture of the LED at the semiconductor level, so that about four times more of the available light emitting parts can be used. This, in part, is driven by the desire to have more reliable back lighting for Liquid Crystal Displays as used on computer monitors and television screens, rather than the present life limited Cold Cathode back light, Cold Cathode effectively being another form of fluorescent lighting.

Finally, the other area where LEDs are being introducing is for automotice lighting where, for example, many new cars are using Red LEDs for the rear lights and brake lights, orange for indicators, etc. However, Hella, in Germany, are producing the first white LED headlamps for cars, where the challenge had been to create a light source comparable with a 65W halogen lamp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A quick note regarding the article covering the use of fluorescent lighting, notably the issue of Power Factor, reference my article in the magazine the Engineer. I can confirm that further work has been conducted on this particular issue. As a consequence, there are two new items that I can add to further prove that the Compact Fluorescent lamp is not the good idea that so many assume. These elements include the announcement made by General Electric in the USA that they have developed an incandescent lamp that is as efficient as a fluorescent lamp, without the problems of poor power factor, poor light quality, long start times, the inability to use dimmer switches, etc.</p>
<p>Note: In the UK, when the efficiency comparison was made between incandescent lamps and fluorescent lamps, this was comparing the very basic, cheapest incandescent lamps, not the more efficient halogen lamps, the latter being readily available. Therefore, the indication that a 20W fluorsecent light bulb replacement is quivalent to a 100W incandescent lamp is only true when comparing with the very basic incandescent lamp.</p>
<p>The other news is that of a better method of producing white Light Emitting Diodes that are significantly better than existing devices, in addition to offering a significantly longer life, that is 100,000 hours. The process involves better precision in the manufacture of the LED at the semiconductor level, so that about four times more of the available light emitting parts can be used. This, in part, is driven by the desire to have more reliable back lighting for Liquid Crystal Displays as used on computer monitors and television screens, rather than the present life limited Cold Cathode back light, Cold Cathode effectively being another form of fluorescent lighting.</p>
<p>Finally, the other area where LEDs are being introducing is for automotice lighting where, for example, many new cars are using Red LEDs for the rear lights and brake lights, orange for indicators, etc. However, Hella, in Germany, are producing the first white LED headlamps for cars, where the challenge had been to create a light source comparable with a 65W halogen lamp.</p>
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		<title>By: Emma H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emma H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a tennant I have just realised that it's going to cost me at lkast £30 to replace the MEM 3 pin bulbs in my hallway. I don't actually think they even last that long!!! We've been here 3 years from new, and already last year had to replace the bulbs with some that the builders left for us. They just suddenly start to fade! It's ridiculous, these bulbs should be widely available and much cheaper if we are forced to have to use them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a tennant I have just realised that it&#8217;s going to cost me at lkast £30 to replace the MEM 3 pin bulbs in my hallway. I don&#8217;t actually think they even last that long!!! We&#8217;ve been here 3 years from new, and already last year had to replace the bulbs with some that the builders left for us. They just suddenly start to fade! It&#8217;s ridiculous, these bulbs should be widely available and much cheaper if we are forced to have to use them.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Woodside</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Woodside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comment "it would seem that LED home lighting (without a power factor issue)" seems to forget that these usually need a transformer/rectifier/capacitor, or more commonly these days, a switched mode power supply, supplying a constant current. Both have PF "issues".
In the EU, equipment over 25W require PFC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comment &#8220;it would seem that LED home lighting (without a power factor issue)&#8221; seems to forget that these usually need a transformer/rectifier/capacitor, or more commonly these days, a switched mode power supply, supplying a constant current. Both have PF &#8220;issues&#8221;.<br />
In the EU, equipment over 25W require PFC.</p>
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		<title>By: Duncan Drennan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duncan Drennan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 09:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Dan ;)

Valid point you have about power factor. Just remember that a low PF does not impact on the actual power consumed, but it does reduce the efficiency of power generation and distribution. Power utilities do plenty to make sure that the power grids PF is close to unity to save them money.

The harmonics generated and the interference they can cause may be a bigger issue than the power factor (http://www.iaeel.org/IAEEL/NEWSL/1995/trefyra1995/LiTech_a_3_4_95.html). It is an issue with just about all modern electronic equipment (due to the widespread use of power electronics), although a lot of higher powered items tend to have PF correction built in these days (I think??)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Dan <img src='http://architectures.danlockton.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Valid point you have about power factor. Just remember that a low PF does not impact on the actual power consumed, but it does reduce the efficiency of power generation and distribution. Power utilities do plenty to make sure that the power grids PF is close to unity to save them money.</p>
<p>The harmonics generated and the interference they can cause may be a bigger issue than the power factor (http://www.iaeel.org/IAEEL/NEWSL/1995/trefyra1995/LiTech_a_3_4_95.html). It is an issue with just about all modern electronic equipment (due to the widespread use of power electronics), although a lot of higher powered items tend to have PF correction built in these days (I think??)</p>
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